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How a dispute on WTN market actually runs

A dispute is not a complaint. It is a formal step that changes who can move the money, and it works better when you treat it that way.

the three wethenorth market addresses

hn2paw7zfvndw3dovycegeqmvvnf4pl67b3g2p7pohjlzavloosh73id.onion
hn2paw7zrgujyhnt6mgxlt2q6uhgbke4itpqitxhyfbumq3wtnckbuyd.onion
hn2paw7zadwkcra3qzv5e4q547i7e5lvxm62cfxqftuqdu7moiu2ceyd.onion

printed the way they were handed over. no labels, no numbering, nothing here says which one to try first. this feed never opens them, so it has no status light, no percentage and no date of checking to give you.

what opening one does

It freezes the escrow and brings a third party from the market into the conversation. The money cannot be released to the vendor while it is open.

That is the mechanical effect and it is the reason a dispute has weight that a message does not. It changes the state of the transaction rather than asking someone to do something.

when to open one

When the expected time has clearly passed and messages have not resolved it, or when what arrived is not what was described.

Not as a first move. Try a message first, because most problems are ordinary and get sorted without any of this. But do not let politeness push you past an auto finalise deadline either.

The timing question is the whole skill. Too early is rude and works against you. Too late is fatal.

what the evidence looks like

Mostly it is the record of the order and the messages between you. Dates in the system, what was described, what you said and when, what they said and when.

That is why the messages you sent earlier matter so much. A calm, specific, dated conversation is evidence. A furious one is also evidence, of something else.

This is the strongest practical argument for the advice in what to write: you are always writing for a third reader who does not exist yet.

who decides and how

Someone from the market reads both sides and makes a call. They are not neutral in the abstract sense, they are running a business that needs both buyers and vendors to keep coming back.

Outcomes are often partial. A split, a partial refund, a reship. Whole wins for either side are less common than people expect.

They are also slow. Everything here is slow, and a process involving a person reading things is the slowest part of it.

how to present your side

Short, factual, in order. What was ordered, what was expected, what happened, what you are asking for. Relative dates and no adjectives.

State what outcome you want. A dispute with no requested outcome is harder to resolve and gets resolved by someone guessing.

Do not repeat yourself in three messages. It buries the useful part and it reads badly to the person deciding.

what a dispute cannot do

It cannot produce money that is not in escrow. If you finalised, there is nothing to freeze, and that is the situation described in finalising.

It also cannot compel anything from the vendor beyond the escrow. The market's power over a vendor ends at the money it is holding.

And it cannot make anyone believe you. A dispute is a person reading two accounts and choosing, which means a good faith buyer sometimes loses one. That is not a flaw in the description, it is the actual situation.

replies

a reader askedWill I get a full refund if I win?

the answerNot necessarily. Partial outcomes are common, and a dispute is a judgement rather than a guarantee.

a reader askedHow long does a dispute take?

the answerThis feed prints no number, because it varies by market and by how busy the people involved are. Assume slow and you will be right more often than not.

a reader askedCan I open a dispute after finalising?

the answerThe escrow has already been released, so there is nothing to hold. What is left is a request rather than a process.

what this post is not Not a template and not a script. Copying a form of words into a dispute reads exactly like what it is, and the person reading it has seen the same paragraph many times.

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