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Escrow on WeTheNorth market, in plain words

The word sounds like paperwork. The idea is simple and it is the main thing standing between you and a bad outcome.

the three wethenorth market addresses

hn2paw7zfvndw3dovycegeqmvvnf4pl67b3g2p7pohjlzavloosh73id.onion
hn2paw7zrgujyhnt6mgxlt2q6uhgbke4itpqitxhyfbumq3wtnckbuyd.onion
hn2paw7zadwkcra3qzv5e4q547i7e5lvxm62cfxqftuqdu7moiu2ceyd.onion

printed the way they were handed over. no labels, no numbering, nothing here says which one to try first. this feed never opens them, so it has no status light, no percentage and no date of checking to give you.

the problem it solves

Two people who do not know each other, cannot meet, cannot sue each other and have no shared institution. One has to go first.

If the buyer goes first, the seller can vanish. If the seller goes first, the buyer can vanish. Neither arrangement survives contact with reality at any scale.

what escrow does about it

The value leaves your balance when the order is placed and does not go to the vendor. It sits with the market until the order concludes.

The vendor can see that it is there, which is what makes them willing to send. You can see that they do not have it, which is what makes you willing to order.

That is genuinely the whole mechanism. Everything else is procedure around it.

what it protects you from

A vendor who takes payment and sends nothing. That is the specific failure it exists for, and it handles it well.

It also protects the vendor from a buyer who receives goods and then claims otherwise, because there is a process rather than a single person deciding.

what it does not protect you from

The market itself. Escrow means the market is holding the money, which means you are trusting the market with it while the order runs.

It also does not protect you against your own choices. Finalising early releases the money to the vendor and ends the protection, and there is a whole post on finalising because that is the most common way people lose it.

And it does not protect against a slow dispute, a wrong outcome, or a vendor who sends something other than what was described but sends something.

the pressure you should expect

Vendors would rather be paid now than later. Some will ask you to finalise before delivery, and the request usually comes with a reason that sounds fair.

The reason may even be true. It is still a request to give up the only structural protection in the transaction, in exchange for goodwill.

Being polite about declining is fine. Declining is the part that matters.

how it ends

Normally, you receive the order, you finalise, and the money moves to the vendor. That is the ordinary path and most orders take it.

If something is wrong, you open a dispute instead, and the money stays where it is while that runs. The post on how a dispute runs covers what happens next.

The important property is that the money does not move on its own. It sits until one of you acts or until the market decides. Nothing about escrow expires quietly in the vendor's favour without a step being taken.

Which means the worst thing you can do with an order that is going wrong is nothing at all.

replies

a reader askedIs escrow the same as a refund guarantee?

the answerNo. It holds the money during the order. It does not promise you an outcome, and a dispute can be decided against you.

a reader askedWho actually holds the funds in escrow?

the answerThe market. That is why escrow is protection against a vendor rather than protection in general, and it is worth being clear eyed about the difference.

a reader askedShould I ever finalise early?

the answerThis feed does not tell people what to do with their money. It will say that finalising early converts a structured transaction into a promise, and that the request always arrives with a good reason attached.

what this post is not Not a guarantee of anything. Escrow is a mechanism with limits, and this post is mostly about where the limits are.

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